That was probably the most obvious, least controversial opening line I've ever started with. Don't get used to it.
Whether you like dogs, cats, guinea pigs, rabbits, fish, turtles, birds, monkeys, tigers or just fur coats, most people love their pets. I don't know what it is that makes animals so adorable to people. Something about a creature that constantly sheds hair, scratches up furniture and poops in a box so you can pick it up with a little plastic shovel just makes them irresistable.
As a pastor, I've had people ask me if I think their pets will meet them in heaven. I tell people that, sure, their pets just might be waiting for them in heaven. What biblical evidence do you have that they won't be? Zero. Pets bring joy to people on Earth, and only a heartless pastor would burst the pets-in-heaven balloon. It's like the last Santa Claus adults get to believe in. I think it does no harm.
No doubt, a lot of people are obsessed with their pets. Some of you go to expensive bakeries to buy cookies and other goodies for your dogs, or just to McDonald's as a reward for a good day. Some of you dress yourselves and your pooch in matching running suits, and then you snuggle in bed like a married couple in love. Gross.I think people treat animals like little people, because they desperately want animals to be little people.
I've got big news for you. Animals are not people, No matter how much you want them to be. They should not eat McDonald's...Actually, people shouldn't even eat McDonald's.
Meet "Winona Ryder," the guinea pig. Though this cuddly little rascal shares a name with a wealthy celebrity, it lives in a box full of rubbish. It eats barely edible pellets from a box and drinks exclusively from a bottle. It sits in its own garbage with no thought for cleaning up after itself. If left alone, it's box and itself would become ever more filthy. Does that sound like any human you have ever heard of?Okay, bad example. But seriously, a bunch of people are trying to lobby to elevate the status of 'animals' to 'people,' with all the rights and priveliges pertaining thereto (really.) That means they wouldn't be 'property.' I don't know how people feel about animals in other societies, but in India, cows are sacred, so I guess anything's possible.
I've written before about the whole system of unintended consequences. People have a problem, think up a solution, and it invariably causes another problem. This is exactly that, only I'm a genius, so I can tell you what unintended consequences it would have. It's a rather common and seemingly innocuous thing to think of your pets as 'people.' Trust me, you don't want your pets to be 'people.'
Problem: animal lovers think there should be tougher penalties for animal abusers. Seems like a good cause, right? Solution: elevate the sanctity of an animal life to higher than that of an unborn baby human. Result: Michael Vick has to go back to prison, and say he's really really sorry.
Unintended result: you can no longer afford healthcare for you precious little LoLCat. What killed healthcare in America? Malpractice lawsuits, for one thing. Right now, vets can count on
being sued only a handful of times in their career, far less than a medical doctor. Thus, their malpractice insurance is far less, and emasculating Toonces the cat is very cheap. But what if Toonces was a 'person?' Suddenly malpractice suits against vets becomes much more lucrative (though no less baseless) and costs skyrocket. Then you have cats crying in heat and spraying everything in sight and doing it right in your yard with no shame because a chop-job just quadrupled in price.And yes, I found this topic important enough to bring in my very own Church of No People LoLCat, despite my complete distaste for them.
So the next time your little ball of fluff does something to make you say "Aww, he thinks he's people!" I suggest you smack man's best friend for making you think he's a person, and remind him where his place is: at your feet.
So tell us about your non-human pets! Tell us if it's a yard dog, or if you sleep with your pet. We have a chocolate lab and an Australian shepherd. It was part of our wedding agreement that there would never be a dog in the bed. In fact, the whole bedroom is kept dog free.







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You lost me when you started blaming malpractice lawsuits for the high cost of healthcare . . . even after tort reform was implemented, costs haven't gone down, but up.
Know how to end malpractice lawsuits? Start encouraging doctors to avoid committing malpractice and to start following the standard of care for the treatment they give. THAT's when they are found liable for malpractice, not just because of an unintended consequence, but when something goes horribly wrong, and it's the doctor's FAULT, not the doctors "bad." And when doctors can't conform their treatment to the standard of care (which is set by the medical community, incidentally), then they should be held accountable, whether it be through judgment, or by having their licenses revoked.
Those doctors (and they do call themselves doctors) should be required to do the same thing. We are creating an environment in which people are actually proposing that we somehow give the medical profession a "bye" for the injuries we suffer, the people we lose, the burden medical care places on us. Hurt us, hurt our loved ones (including pets), it's okay. We'll forgive you?
Sorry, I'll step off the soapbox, but, no, if I take my pet to the vet, and there is an establish procedure or standard of care, and the vet doesn't follow that, I want the vet to be held accountable to whatever extent a jury deems just, rather than having someone tell me (like the legislature, for example), that my pet, which has been part of my family for nearly 6 years, is worth only, what, $50?
That's what tort reform does . . . it tells you that no matter how bad YOU are hurt, or how much your loved one suffers, it is worth no more to society than a sum certain. It's gross, particularly, in my opinion, in birth injury cases, when death or catastrophic injuries are involved.
You also lost me when you equated veganism with thinking animals are people. That's a real leap in logic. Many people are vegetarian and vegan for a variety of reasons; better health, concern for the welfare of animals (which does not necessarily equate them to people), concern for the environment and more. I'm not fully vegan or even vegetarian. I still consume meat from grass fed cows raised about four miles from my own little farm. But I only eat that meat because I know 1) how the animals were raised and 2) how they were slaughtered (I pick the meat up directly from the slaughterhouse and have seen how clean it is, and how humanely - yes, humanely - the family run facility is). Point being, please don't go mocking vegans and vegetarians and think we are all thinking Fluffy's equal to Bob. No. I know where God put animals in the kingdom. He gave man dominion over them. That doesn't mean I agree with current factory farming practices. Dominion doesn't equal cruelty. Not all meat animals are treated cruelly. I for one try to avoid cruelty to anyone - man or beast. I think that is what God would like, kindness to all. People first, always, but animals second.
As for tort reform - badly, badly needed. One of my doctors said she pays $150,000 per year in malpractice insurance. Now I know why she charges $250 an appointment (before insurance).
Update: In a rare move, I've removed my mentioning of vegans, as it was obviously misunderstood.
Caroline, while I understand our desire to be compensated for poor medicine, I'm only stating the future as I anticipate it. Solve one problem (making it easier to punish doctors when we get hurt), create another problem (no one can afford healthcare.)
Many would argue that tort reform has not gone nearly far enough, and needs to be part of the current healthcare package being worked on in Congress, since as you say, costs have indeed gone up.
I would argue that the system has dug itself such a hole, prices are systematically unable to come down, even when some measure is implemented designed to do so.
So your doctor pays $150,000 a year in insurance, or $12,500 per month, and charges $250 per visit . . . if your doctor charges $250 per visit, and let's say 4 appointments are set per hour (and I have never had a doctor spend 15 minutes with me, except when I was in surgery), the doctor bills $1000 per hour or roughly $8000 per day. That's $40,000 in a week, or $160,000 a month. Of that, $12,500 is for insurance, leaving $147,500 for other expenses like overhead and med school bills . . . Think it costs $147,500 to run a clinic for a month? How often do you see a doctor's office go out of business?
Medical malpractice insurance costs are not the fault of those who are injured by doctors . . . but the insurance industry who wants more, and more, and more, and then has the luxury of even being exempt from antitrust restrictions. It's brilliant how the insurance industry has everyone convinced that the people who are hurt are the bad guys.
Last point . . . perhaps what is needed is not so much tort reform that would compensate those who are injured (or compensated for injuries to their pets, in keeping with the spirit of this post), but insurance reform that would make insurance companies accountable for their charges (and removing the antitrust exemption might not be a bad idea, either), but putting all the burden on the people who ARE impacted by poor medical care, and who can least afford the consequences of same, in my opinion, is not the answer.
The same is true when dealing with a vet bill.
But all that is just my opinion, after doing extensive research on the impact of tort reform in our healthcare system. If you are interested, some good information can be found here: http://www.niulawreview.org/issues/26-3/Salvi.pdf
Caroline, thanks for the input. Understand, everyone, I'm not trying to advocate taking away patient rights or anything. I just know that vets are concerned because the writing is on the wall when it comes to animal rights.
And for the record, I am no fan of insurance. I love my home/car/life insurance agent. I gladly pay those insurances. I hate medical insurance. It's the biggest crock I've ever seen. I would never willingly soldier for the insurance company. Ah, but that's for another time.
I'm willing to say there are animals in heaven, but that's about as far as I'll go. Giving chimps the same rights as humans gives me the creeps in a Planet of the Apes sort of way.
eek!..... and I was just going to comment about my doofy Rotweiller, Mufasa and our little hobby farm of Nigerian Dwarf goats.
*stepping back tippy toe style out of this*
Planet of the Apes.....HAHAHAHHAHAAHH Billy!
(we were commenting at the same time)
MY dog is pretty clear that he is a dog, but of course he also seems to think the rest of the family is as well. Funny how that works. It isn't a big problem because I raised him knowing how big he would get (more or less) and knowing that he would need to know his place in the family.
I understands that I am at the top and I think he seems to think next in line is my 3 year old, the baby, and himself. Lately he is listening to the 6 year old better but the oldest boy and my wife get no respect I tell ya, no respect at all.
Oh, on another point, if pets are people you wouldn't be allowed to chop chop. That has been a huge debate in the sexual predator circle. Do people have the innate right to their gonads?
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I haven't been doing these for a while but it is BIBLE!!! seriously how can I not let everyone know that blogger just gave me bible as my word verification?
Ah, Nick, you bring up another excellent point!
Did not in any way mean for this post to be so serious, not that I don't welcome debate. So if you've got a hobby farm of goats, please, do tell!
HA! I've got nothing too exciting to share (and I love me a good debate, this was way outta my league, though)
....but I do have some of my best talks with God when I am shoveling poop, yk.
If you pop on over to my crazy random Un-medicated ADD corner of the blogging world, you'll see that God has a funny way of teaching me pretty cool lessons in ordinary life, including my farm animals. ;)
Ugh. If dogs have the same rights as humans, then they need to start schools for them (that I don't outright pay for) where they can learn to take a crap in the toilet and stop yapping all the friggin' time.
The other thing is, that not everyone would want their pets as people.
Have I tried to fashion a Halloween costume for my dog? H-yes. Her name is Cerberus, so, you know good and well the first time I saw two stuffed dogs that looked like her I snatched them up and stuck them on the sides of her head.
Do I want her to be a person? Only if my dog's will start understanding that you can sit there and eat string and a clump of toilet paper and expect to have a great time getting it back out and me not to be mad.
About healthcare and all that? Yeah, that junk's already expensive. I do not want it to go up any higher. No sir.
Also, get with Nick to get you some good commenting system to keep track of this conversation a bit better. It's all over the place! Haha.
Seriously though, good post. But, I will say that I do actually think animals go to Heaven. I know, I know, they don't have souls and stuff... but they creations of God, and I think He reconciles all of it for His glory.
We have a dog-free bedroom too. They're just too big (Boxer and Border Collie). But a cat-free bedroom? That's another story.
I love my pets, but I never lose sight they are animals, not humans. My vet has lost sight of that though. At the last cat check up, he lectured me because I wouldn't pay $162 per cat for a blood work panel that essentially could predict future diseases. I asked if the "future diseases" could be avoided if we knew they were coming. He said "No, but you could prepare yourself better." "Nope, we're good, thanks though". And then he looked at me like I was pus and left the room.
I'm sure the Sushi and Cash vet chart now have a reference to their cold and heartless mother, but who knows?
On a lighter note, here's my pets http://www.joannamuses.com/2009/02/meet-my-furry-friends.html
I have allergies.
I believe there will be animals in Heaven, and that I won't have allergies there..
I've had numerous conversations with my neighbor who's a doctor about this subject, and he paints a interesting picture of the medical field. He also understands that medicine is not an exact science as much as we'd like to believe it is.
He has never been sued for malpractice but still must pay the same premium a doctor with similar 'assessed risk' does who may have several such claims. The overhead for his practice is so complex on both sides of the income statement that I don't know how he forecast his tax liabilities each year. Is he poor? Far from it. Is he filthy rich? Not by a long shot.
Just flip through your local Yellow Pages in the A's and note the number of LARGE ads from lawyers that want to represent you if you've suffered from malpractice. Same goes for injuries in car accidents.
Our society believes
Unfortunate Accident + Attorney = Big Payout
Who pays in the end? Not the doctors, lawyers or insurance companies...it's simple trickle down economics that ends with consumers...once again.
One sad side-note: I actually know someone who had their dog baptized. I'm not sure who is more delusional...the person with the dog or the person who did the baptizing.
This post was timed perfectly, as I have been struggling with the decision I made to put my cat down recently. I think I made the right decision.
I applaud this post and your view on animals, and laughed when you talked about the joy of scooping poop!
Yes, a cat lover and owner has to ask himself, "what am I doing this for?"
My cat was the perfect pet, loved by me and my family. He loved people, caused a minimum of damage to things in the house, and didn't even want to go outside.
Suddenly he developed a behavior problem and started to use the living room couch as his litter box.
We struggled with him for a while, got prayer and were praying for him, but time was of the essence - the pressure of wondering what he was going to do got too great.
I realized that God wanted me to let him go, and it would have to be death for him because no one else should be subjected to his problem.
But that was OK because he was an animal.
I miss him terribly, and feel a void without a pet, but look forward to a new one.
But animals are not people, just as you said.
That was an important factor in the decision making process. I dread, as you said how much more difficult that situation would have been if things got as weird as they seem to be getting.
My vet wouldn't agree to put him down because she wanted to first put him on behavior modification drugs! Ridiculous!
I had to take him to the Humane Society.
About animals being in heaven......
God placed animals in the garden to be a joy and comfort to man.
Animals do not "sin" - they belong to God and will return to God.
What shape and form they will take we don't know, but Revelation describes animals in heaven.
There are no animals in Hell.
Know what's great about animals? That God created them for His and our pleasure. Coming home to a swinging tail and a slobbery kiss can make my day. Also, there have been many times that I have learned great lessons from my dog. His unconditional love. His focus on the 'prize'. His love of life.
My house has 4 adults and 3 dogs. Unfortunately, my mom treats her dog like a person, and the little guy flaunts it in front of the two bigger dogs who could eat him in one bite.
It would make me sad to be unable to afford serious vet bills to help my dog if something awful happened. But he's still a dog. He's still a gift, and ultimately belongs to the Giver. Even a person who is labeled 'the scum of the earth' is of infinitely MORE worth than my dog.
Thanks for the reminder Matt.
Wait, you are telling me that Toonces the driving cat is not people? What is wrong with you!? He drives for goodness' sake!
As for the rest of the heated debate, I care not to enter... :)
Although our pets are not people, they are a part of our family and very spoiled. Yes, they are allowed to sleep on the bed with us. In fact our cats and doggie all blog at http://karen.pnn.com.
I heard of a Sunday School teacher who had what I thought was a very good answer to the question of will we see our pets in heaven. She told him that since the Bible says there won't be any sadness in heaven that if you need your pet in heaven not to be sad, then it will be there.
Matt, are you saying that my BozDog will NOT be in heaven? You know how Katdish feels about Boz and it could get ugly when she finds out that YOU just shot down her Santa Claus. Luckily you don't live in the same state as her (I'm referring to the state of Texas by the way)...
Would Gabrielle Eden, who said that there are animals in heaven, please be so kind as to cite the verse in Revelation they were referencing?
I've never seen it. All I see are 144,001 former humans, an un-numbered (but vast) quantity of angels and God himself.
In fact, just to stir things up a bit, there is no mention in the Bible of a female angel.
Oh oh, now I'm in trouble. I just remember descriptions of animals....I'll have to go look that up.
From Revelation 4:
In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back. 7The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle. 8Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under his wings. Day and night they never stop saying: "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." 9Whenever the living creatures give glory, honor and thanks to him who sits on the throne and who lives for ever and ever, 10the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne, and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say:
11"You are worthy, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they were created
and have their being."
That is just one passage.
I've got to agree with your main premise here.
I've always owned dogs. I love dogs. We currently have a great dog that we got 3 years ago from the pound and he makes our life way more enjoyable. But when it's all said and done, he IS A DOG.
There was a line in a commercial on TV the other day about "your pets are your children". Much to the dismay of my actual children, I begin to rant about how my pet is NOT my child.
I'm reminded of a song by Randy Stonehill (a not too widely known Christian singer way before your time) that included the following line:
"it's OK to murder babies, but you really ought to save the whales"
We have a dog, two guinea pigs, a Russian Tortoise, a fish (the 25 cent variety you win in Fall Harvest Festival games). I suspect that the 25 cent fish must rough up any $5 fish we add to give him "company", leading to an untimely death of the expensive fish. He is currently alone. All animals, except for the dog, which we just adopted, survived an 1800 mile move involving five days in the car/van and four nights in hotel rooms. Driving a vehicle for eight hours with guinea pigs in it is not for those with sensitive noses.
The animals do not think they are human and I would NEVER consider dressing any animals up. Period. The dog sleeps in our room, but not in our bed. All other animals are scattered in the kid's rooms. Because I have wanted a dog since I was eight years old, I made my husband vow before we were married that he would let me have a dog. We ended up having kids first and they ended up being very time consuming, so I had to wait eleven years before we actually got the dog.
Our new mini schnauzer is allowed to sit with me in my chair towards the end of the evening. That's it...no bed time for him.
Now, when they told me it would cost $40 to cut his hair---i don't even spend that much money on my hair...
Stay blessed...john
I just heard the message "23 minutes in hell" and it's as if God wanted to correct me about the 'no animals in hell' idea. The guy said all the icky animals were there - snakes, worms, bats and that sort of animal.
Wouldn't you know it?
I have to listen to the message again, but I heard him say that.
Interesting blog. I tend to believe that animals go to heaven especially after reading a book called "Animals in Heaven? Catholics Want to Know!" by author Susi Pittman. It's based upon scripture and offers compelling evidence that animals will be present in heaven.
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