There were lots of awesome comments. One of the best points was that all of us can help kill a church. Right you are! There are so many traps to fall into. Even by doing nothing, a complacent audience will let a problem fester until it tears the whole thing down.
Some asked me to do a follow up post, 'People Who Won't Kill Your Church.' Sort of like a church 'dream team.'
That was hard to think up because a dream team doesn't exist.
Well, it does exist...as a dream. But most (99.99999%) of us will never land that dream team. That, and every church has different needs. My dream team won't be your dream team.
Still, there are some people you really really need in every church.
Five People Who Won't Kill Your Church
(And May Just Keep It Alive)
Plumbers: Everyone likes to talk leadership. We have books and conferences and classes and keynotes on the glories of leading. Here's all you need to know about leaders: You don't need lots of leaders. They aren't on this list. Leaders are dangerous...because they know they're leaders. You need plumbers, and lots of them. Why?
Because churches are full of crap.That statement works on so many levels. There's the crap that has to be done for a church to run, and there's the crap that everyone brings with them to church, and both have to be taken care of. If you want real leaders, look for guys doing jobs around the church that no one wants to do. How about the guy who's unclogging the toilet? (figuratively or literally) That's your man, the guy who gets stuff done for others. If you want to be a leader, start fixing toilets.
There's your leadership seminar. That'll be $300.
Cheerleaders: Not the kind with pom-poms and short skirts...well, maybe. Pastors don't need 'yes men.' They need people who can keep them accountable, gently. They need people who can tell them when an idea is really bad, nicely. And outside of that, they need to make the pastor, and everyone else feel really good about being at church. Occasional criticism is easier to swallow when there's positive attitudes everywhere. J-E-S-U-S! C-H-R-I-S-T!! Goooo JESUS!Cooks: I mean people who can 'feed' themselves, and others in a spiritual way. The excuse for leaving a church, "I'm just not being fed here," is usually a cop-out, like a chick breaking up with a dude by saying, "It's not you, it's me," or, "I love you, but I'm not in love with you." Really? You're not being fed? Is the pastor supposed to make airplane noises as he brings that baby spoon to your mouth? Let me ask who have you helped feed lately? When was the last time you tried to feed yourself? Some pastors are lousy preachers. But in many cases, I suspect that adults would just rather act like a bunch of diaper babies.
Bouncers: Did you notice how many people came into our church from the outside and did their damage? Now, I'm not talking about making people feel un-welcome at church. But, just like a show, you get the stamp on your hand and you act cool, or you're going to get 86ed by a big bald guy. That doesn't make people feel unwelcome, it makes everyone feel safe! Everyone needs to be aggressively protective of the church they steward, because clowns are everywhere. You don't even have to shave your head...but it might help.Pastors: These are your leaders, and the church works really well when no one else is trying to be the pastor. Pastors lead by example in ministry, by getting their hands dirty, even by unclogging toilets. He's the master plumber, the lead cheerleader, the head chef, and the big bouncer. He's not doing all the work, he's just leading everyone else in their work, ministering to each other. If the pastor does this, and nothing else, he probably won't kill his church.
Yeah, I didn't include God or The Bible, or Ninjas because we all know they're on the list.
Hey, I don't know if your church needs a bass guitarist, or a powerpoint guy, or a minister of frosted hair, or anyone else. Not every church needs them, and no matter how awesome your church is, it will probably always want to add a new teammate. So the group you have will never be perfect or have all the skills you'd wish for.
But if everyone is playing one or more of those five roles, you're doing all right. And if nothing else, you'll probably prevent most church killers from doing much damage. If you're lacking any of them, you'll probably be really hurting.
What do you see as being your role in your church? Are you the big bald guy, or the one with the pom-poms, or something else I haven't even thought of?







22 people say amen!:
Great post Matt. The only part I'm not sure I agree with is:
'"I'm just not being fed here," is usually a cop-out'
I've never actually left a church for this reason but I've been at churches where the quality of teaching is really, really poor (preferring to preach about Christian books rather than the Bible). On top of this it permeates into the study groups and the worship team. I tried to lead a study of a Bible passage and bring people back to it and people thought it was ok but then went back to what was getting pushed by the pastor, more Christian books.
I think it is frequently a valid excuse as long as people can pinpoint in _what_ way they aren't being fed. Maybe I'm being overly consumerist but I feel I grow less in my faith when I'm at a church with poor teaching so I'm not sure why I would stay.
To actually answer the question you asked about where I see my role: staying as far away from leadership as possible and trying to encourage people as much as possible. When I'm blessed with a good sermon/worship session/reading/prayer session I try and be sure to tell the people involved how much I benefited from it. I guess that makes me the cheerleader, as much as I hate the title ;).
I'll cook for anyone. Give me an apron and I can do a mean saute'. I just don't spoon feed...
I love the homestar runner picture! That's the best!
[laughing] The Poopsmith. Nice!
~Luke
I am an Assoc. Pastor at my church and I would say I fill a little bit of all those rolls. I am certainly the plumber, often more literally than figuratively. Had to plunge a toilet in our sr. youth boys cabin recently (took 20 mins.) and if that ain't being the plumber, I don't know what is. Our chairman of deacons is most certainly the bouncer, he has no quams about telling people to hit the road if they are causing problems. But I think your "dream team" is a pretty good start.
Okay the airplane noises thing made me laugh.
I know I'm idealistic but I pray that everyone in my church (I'm a pastor btw) would agree with our vision, where we're going, how God wants to use us, and that they pray and ask God if they are to be a part of our congregation. There are many churches and I'm happy about that- instead of floating around to find the "perfect fit" what if we actually relied on the Holy Spirit for wisdom and guidance and asked Him where we're supposed to be planted. Maybe I'm crazy, but that's what I pray for.
wv: spoikers -an exclamatory word of joy as in "Spoikers! that was a great post, Matt!"
We've got them all...except maybe the 'bouncer'.
People usually bounce themselves when they realize that we are not there to cater to their every whim.
Real convicting stuff!
I have to ask: "am I a good cheerleader? Am I a good cook? Do I feed or do I just want to be fed?"
That was your best post.
Oh yes, and I was convicted by you saying that the church needs plumbers - people to fix things.
My role has been to be the criticizer - to sit back in a corner, see what is wrong with a church and criticize it. It serves no productive purpose, but my flesh enjoys it.
What Jason said!
And thanks for not using the term "servant leader." Although I love the concept...for some reason it just bugs me and I really like the term plumber better. ;)
wv: blorke- I was trying to unclog the toilet at the church and after 15 minutes of plunging...BLORKE! Problem solved.
Yeah, I agree with Mike Arthur about the "not being fed." Your post can be correct, but in this day and age it's too possible to get involved in a church and still starve for the gospel. And not enough gospel really will mess up a church when normal troubles come.
Mike and Spike, a good point you have here. It is possible to be in a church and starve for the gospel.
I suppose I come at it from a different perspective. Seems a lot of people are unhappy with other things in the church and use that as an excuse, while the people who get pandered to at church with soft sermons remain complacent and satisfied.
You have some great ideas here, and I'm not trying to add to an already great list, but would you say that volunteers are the plumber? I think that every church needs great volunteers.
The reason I wouldn't have added them to the plumber title is because not all of them are doing unclogging, as it were. My wife and I volunteer for childcare...does that make me a plumber? Just curious.
"Is the pastor supposed to make airplane noises as he brings that baby spoon to your mouth?"
i thought all pastors were doing this these days. dang. i guess you learn something new every day!
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what's my role? good question. i really have come to view it as being one who starts and sustains conversations. asking questions and getting others to ask questions. inviting people into an epic dialog of words, music, prayers, service, justice and forgiveness.
hey matt! great post, loved it.
whats my role...cheerleader. :-)
and servant.
hope you're having a great summer!
I don't think our church has any Ninjas; can I fill that role? (If a short, inflexible woman can be a Ninja, that is.)
I guess I'm a cheerleader... sorta. I tend to cheer for those who are quietly serving, because I want them to know they are appreciated. My husband is much better at cheering the leadership, which is also necessary.
I am a cheerleader for sure. I am called specifically to pray and encourage and challenge my pastor. Although I hold up my church leadership, my primary role is to do battle on my knees for my pastor.
I'm a cheerleader/bouncer.
I like to encourage through intimidation. But you already knew that about me...
And I'm telling Pete Wilson you took a shot at his hair...
The worst/best people are what they are based upon their knowing, trusting and treasuring the Gospel itself. The Gospel alone makes the difference.
Bad people are gospel-bad. Good people are gospel-good.
The Gospel levels the playing field and puts the subjective nonsense in perspective.
Peace-
Matthew
What about the prophets? The ones that see visions, that speak in poetry and mystery, that undermine the status quo?
Great Post. I'm going to read this to our church leadership team. I'm trying to move them from consultants to contributors.
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