Did I just say karma?

What does karma even mean? No one in America seems to know what it means, but it’s a pretty popular word to casually throw around. Just sprinkle it randomly into conversation, and people will think you’re enlightened and trendy. It’s like if you have a bunch of stuff in your house from Pier One, like a vase full of colored balls, or a little Buddha statue or a big metal thing on your wall that even you don’t know what it is. People see it and they don’t know what it is either, so they respect you for having things in your house they’ve never even heard of.
Betty: That is a lovely...decoration on your wall!..Er...What is it?
Wanda: ...You know I don’t know. But the guy wearing the capri pants at Pier One said it makes good ‘karma.’
Betty: Oh, I think you mean ‘fun sway.’
Wanda: Oh you’re right. But it’s probably good ‘karma’ too.
Although the word means a lot more to people in eastern cultures, over here karma serves the same purpose as exotic looking furniture, or ‘soul patches,’ or glasses with fake lenses.
Christians don’t seem to be sure what to do about karma because Jesus never talked about it. Is it okay to use? Do we frown on it? Do we try use it just to be hip? The only reason karma is cool these days is because it’s a different culture’s word for a concept that we already know.
It’s called, ‘The Golden Rule.’
But the Golden Rule just can’t hold up to the awesome latte sipping hipness of karma. Karma sounds like a mysterious and exotic belly dancer whispering breathlessly in your ear. The Golden Rule sounds like a schoolmarm rapping your hand with a ruler.
I actually heard a (young) Sunday school teacher at a church I used to attend correct a couple of kids by saying, ‘You know, there is such a thing as karma.’ I was stunned. I wanted to rush in and say, ‘No no, no there isn’t, don’t listen to her, kids. What goes around does not come around. Your deeds or misdeeds to others will never be repaid after you die.’ But that didn’t sound right.
Christians have tried to come up with their own cliche phrases with vague meanings to substitute for 'karma.' ‘Love on’ or ‘In Christian love’ are viable alternatives to ‘karma.’ You say those enough, you're covered in the afterlife. But even these popular phrases fail to infuse the user with the same levels of awesomeness experienced by the ‘karma’ user. ‘Love on’ is like a hip looking trinket in your friend’s house, and she says it’s from Pier One, of course. But then when she’s not looking, you flip it over and the tag says ‘TJ Maxx: CLEARANCE.’
The word ‘karma’ is hip because ‘eastern’ themed décor is hip right now. 99% of all the Buddhas, elephants, and African tribal statues that places like Pier One sells are purchased by people who will never believe in Buddha, African spirits or elephants. It’s all for those people who say ‘I’m spiritual, just not religious.’ If Jesus were a jolly, fez wearing elephant genie, you wouldn’t be able to keep him on the shelves, he’d be so hip. I guarantee it.
Who knows, maybe in China's version of Pier One, they sell Jesus trinkets like crazy because they think Jesus is novel and cute and will bring them good luck if they rub his belly. Sounds offensive, doesn't it? I think it swings both ways, but that's just me.
A couple of weeks ago I was attempting to find a parking space at the grocery store, and I was stopped behind a guy who was waiting for someone else to get in his car and leave. He had a bumper sticker that simply read 'Karma,' which I found ironic, given what a tool he was being in the parking lot.
But he also had a ‘Darwin fish’ on his car. That’s a Jesus fish with legs, and it’s an abomination.
I found it curious that a dude with ‘Karma’ on his car would also be a Darwinist. Do Darwinists believe that ‘what goes around comes around?’ That we should treat others as we would like to be treated?
Imagine the world, as Darwin envisioned. Animals are all jostling to climb the evolutionary ladder, natural selection, survival of the fittest, etc, etc. What happens when an animal decides he’s going to take a more karma-centered path; to treat other animals as he would like to be treated?
Antelope #1: You know, Bob, I’ve lived a while now, and I realized the other day that I have never thought of anyone but myself. If I wanted something, I took it. Didn’t matter how it made the other animals feel. After all, we’re all equal in the sight of the non-existent creator. I’m going to start doing good deeds for others. I’m going to think of others before myself.
Antelope #2: You know what, you’re ri...
Tiger: (violently mauls both antelope, takes only two bites of each because he just ate a wildebeest but just had a hankering for antelope, throws leftovers in river so no one else can share, obviously flaunting the ideals of ‘karma.’)
Have you heard ‘karma’ being thrown around? At church? What do you think – is it a word Christians can successfully annex for our own use, or do we need to come up with another, equally hip word to summarize ‘the Golden rule?’ Confession time: how many pieces of furniture or decoration do you have in your house that’s ‘eastern culture’ themed?







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Not that I have the most educated opinion, but when I hear the word "Karma" thrown about by non-christians usually - they are usually referring to it in the negative. What comes to mind is "You reap what you sow" (Galatians 6:7)
Personally half of the people who toss this about carelessly don't really know what it means, they see it as some "justice" system. It's not "An eye for an eye"
When it comes negative situations, I would like to think that instead of saying that karma will come and kick him or her up the Blessed Assurance... that I would pray for those who hurt me. That I show some Grace and forgiveness. Not always the case.... :) I'm getting there..
Good karma - I think are the blessings of God - and I think blessings are MUCH more hip than Karma. I also think the Golden Rule fits it very nicely too.
As for eastern decorations, I have none. Not my style. :) I think the most 'eastern' thing I have is a recipe book. Does that count?
Wow. I loved this post!
You're so very right when you say that the Darwin fish is an abomination- I'm pretty sure that the Buddhist version is Buddha toking up with a bong but do you ever see that on the back of a car? No. Why? Cos they'd be, pardon the pun here, crucified for doing so and yet the darwin fish is everywhere.
karma is a word i hear too often being at a performing arts academy where alternative is celebrated and church is villified.
karma for me stands in stark contrast to the fact that Jesus gave His life with no expectations of return investments, good thoughts or reciprocal action floating His way afterwards.
A bumper sticker I saw the other day "My karma ran over your dogma".
I confess I have a few pieces of eastern pieces of decoration in my house. But in my defense I went China a few years ago.
I have windows with curtains on them on the eastside of my house but that's about all the Eastern decor I have.
Not a fan of Karma.
But I do believe what you will reap what you sow.
Aw, shucks! Justin N. beat me to the "dogma ran over your karma" line.
I don't have any decor that is "eastern culture themed", but since I am somewhat "eastern culture themed" myself, said decor would be redundant.
Actually, I'm not sure it would be redundant, I just like that word.
My kids learned about karma from "My Name is Earl" and we've had to re-teach them about it. We don't have any Eastern stuff, but I do have some little Indian trinket from an Aztec pyramid in Mexico City, and I'm sure my Mexican friends think I have brought all sorts of demons into my house as a result of it, but they don't tell me.
The word karma is a taboo for Christians in India as it stands for funamental hindu philosophy - their doctrine of reincarnation and rebirth. Your karma determines in what shape you will be born in your next life.
The antelope and Tiger were both evil people that 's why they were born animals. Now it will take several million rebirths for them to collect good karma & to recycle into a human form . Then only they can try for a better birth.
We also don 't use the word mantra amongst Christians in India as it is a secret Hindu command or religious text imparted by a guru to his disciple.
Karma has nothing to do with our God or Jesus or Gal 6 ;7
According to Hindu philosophy its a man 's deeds good or bad.And the result of his deeds.
We have to be very discerning what kind of decoration we use in the house. Don 't want to give Satan any advantage and its a matter of testimony too.
I did not know about the Darwin fish.
I love it that Amrita can give us a Christian's perspective in India about this! Thank you!
I'm a big champion of loving God first. THEN we can attempt to live the golden rule...and thank goodness God doesn't give us what we deserve!
And quit hatin' on T.J. Maxx clearance items.
If I DID any real decorating...I like a more mediterranean flair...but first we have to do things like put door knobs on the doors....finish the trim on the hallway...yadda yadda....
And to end my long and sporadic comment, may I say I love the quotes about what people are saying about your blog....your mom's comment wins for funniest hands down. :)
Amrita, thank you for telling us about how Christians in India view the word Karma. I never thought about it before, but Christians elsewhere must suffer greatly if they know how lightly we take some things here that they are willing to suffer persecution to stand against.
I get angry when Christians talk about Karma. My mom became disabled a few years ago. She used to do grocery shopping and other errands for the homebound in her neighborhood. At one time there were five different ladies she would shop for, visit, check on in the winter if they had heat and in the summer if they turned their air conditioning on. This was not a job. She did not get paid to do errands or keep the lonely company. She did them out of love and mercy. If Karma were true, she would not be homebound herself now, but running around the neighborhood continueing to do errands for those who can't.
But what really hurts is to hear her ask "Why is God doing this to me? If I knew what I did. I would repent. I must have done something awful for God to let this happen to me...." My dear, lovely, Christian mom has bought into "what goes around comes around!" and it breaks my heart!
Eastern decorations? I have a China doll. Does that count?
Good post, Matt.
Karma (as we know it in general culture) was the predominant system in the world.
Jesus entered in and created a Post-Karmic Stream for us to live in.
No longer did our own righteousness determine our destiny. We were now subject to his righteousness and salvation came through Him and Him alone.
The Post-Karmic Stream: http://theburkholders.blogspot.com
I think that Jesus's Sermon on the Mount was supposed to be about karma. You know: "Blessed are the poor in spirit..."
I personally find the "poor in spirit" to be not such good company.
I'm from Africa and like to think that much of my house is Africanized. That said I have nothing which I think is overtly spiritual in it's intended design. 1 Corinthians 8 would cover me but also give Amrita support.
I’m not happy equating Galatians 6:7 to Karma. I went and reread the passage and it’s intended focus seems to be an eternal one whereas Karma is a temporal in nature. Also Karma is more cyclical whereas judgement for the deeds of the righteous will happen but once.
Hey Matt, you're from KC right? Are you a Chiefs fan? Let me know at the Koffi House!
Karma. Crazy stuff man. I don't believe in it. I hear people say it a lot though. Like when I'm playing Blitz on N64 and I score a touchdown and put a nice smirk on my face. My opponent will tell me it's bad karma and it's going to get me back. I then proceed to win the game 70-14. Thus, my definition of Karma is false hope for those who suck at Blitz. Or Mario Kart.
Amrita, I'm glad you commented. I had thought of you and hoped you would have something to say when I posted this. Thanks for the perspective.
And I actually haven't seen the 'karma ran over your dogma' bumper stickers. But that doesn't sound quite like good karma.
Matt - Here is the link to the "Post-Karmic" explanation. Warning: Bono is involved. ;-)
http://theburkholders.blogspot.com/2008/11/post-karmic-stream-of-karma-grace-and.html
My Name is Earl and The Matrix...2 good places to learn about karma...right?
You've nailed it with The Golden Rule. We have the free will to practice what Christ commanded...but that doesn't mean our neighbor will too.
That whole karma things scares me anyway...I have 2 daughters...and well, let's just say some call that poetic justice.
I have a Chinese guard lion statue over the door to our fridge. I've always been a fan of mythology and that's why I like some of the Eastern themed stuff. It happens. I also have a Halo 3 Spartan helmet in my office. I don't see an inherent danger of "letting Satan in" by these decorations mainly because people are just putting them in for decoration. I would say that it may be a stumbling block for your buddhist friends to come over and see his God chilling next to your crucifix, but most likely it will just muddy your witness. BUT, chances are that if you haven't thought that through and have Buddha next to Jesus (although Buddha was supposed to have met Jesus and learned a thing or two), then your witness probably isn't all it's cracked up to be.
About the karma... It's just a word people throw around, you're exactly right. I think Ryan B hit it on the head that people mainly only use it in the negative sense. Kind of like the chaos theory that everyone learned from Jurassic Park and Jeff Goldblum. It's just one of those "reasons" that people use to excuse themselves for not helping someone else out. Like if a guy cuts you off in the road, then gets pulled over and you smirk and wave at him as you pass and think to yourself, yeah, that's karma, jerk. Which is completely un-Buddhist anyway...
Oh, and about Darwinism (sheesh, you really set them up today), it's dumb. If people truly believed in Darwinism, then we wouldn't have hospitals, retirement homes, or special education schooling. By Darwin's own theory, the old, handicapped and wounded should not be allowed to procreate because we could "evolve" (which is another word I think gets thrown around) and let the strong survive and the weaker subjects die out. But... I think the Darwin fish should have to change every couple of years. Shouldn't it evolve? I would like to see what it's supposed to change into... a lizard next? How exactly do you get from walking fish to primate exactly...?
*takes a deep breath*
Wow. That felt good. Thank you!
I have nothing else to contribute to this other than wanting to tell you that "fun sway" made me laugh out loud.
I am thankful that I am not bound by karma ... we have grace. God has given us something we definitely don't deserve.
very strange to think about people rubbing Jesus' belly. very very strange.
i do think buddha is cute though. i know, ridiculous.
Alec, that was so well said. Thank you. Well said, and short enough to remember.
I don't think it is a word we can safely adopt. The reason is because it's not immediately clear what it means.
I haven't done enough serious research into the concept to understand what it ACTUALLY involves, but if you use it today, people will get an impression that you are talking about earthly consequences, and that id something bad happens to you, its all your fault.
I think this is too simple an explanation, but its the quicky coffee explanation that most people will think of.
As Christians we have enough misunderstood concepts of our own to deal with and explain away, why would we want to adopt another one?
you rock matt-
i cant help but wonder that whoever invented karma was 2 seconds from discovering newton's third law of motion: "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."
in other words- i yell at you for doing something and you'll either yell right back or get mad at me internally or go hide in a corner and shut me out. either way you go- there is a reaction.
karma likes to make it seem like you can project an action or reaction at will to anyone in the world but God is alot smarter than karma will ever hope to be.
God knows its person to person. karma makes it easy to rack up imaginary points for filling up a bottle of water and leaving it on a bench for that homeless person that may just show up hours later. but what it likes to leave alone is the person to person interaction of the golden rule.
"27 But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you." Luke 6:27-31
Its the person to person deal we like to skip past. but its what matters most to God.
you've given me a blog topic i do believe...
Have you heard ‘karma’ being thrown around? At church? What do you think – is it a word Christians can successfully annex for our own use, or do we need to come up with another, equally hip word to summarize ‘the Golden rule?’ When all is going well, bills are paid, kids are happy, spouse is fulfilled blah, blah, blah, then our "karma" is good. Of course, as Christians, we don't say karma, but my suspicion is we still feel that's what it is. I have some Christian friends who think when life sucks, God is punishing them. When life is good, God is rewarding them. That's what we define karma as right? What goes around, comes around? I don't believe that (sure did use to though), but don't you think others do?
I don't have any eastern influence furniture I don't think, but I have lots of Pier 1 stuff, so maybe I'm wrong. I have a giant wooden cat statue. The guy who sold it to me was wearing capris AND Birkenstocks. Maybe I've been duped. Time for kitty to go on Craigs List...
Hmm at first glance Karma would seem to as harmless as yoga (just good exercise) and those funky elephants (not like i worship the thing) we take for granted. But as some people have mentioned it creates a confusing witness, what is it... "In the world not of the world", so as Christians i don't think it's a word we can get away with using.
As far as eastern culture stuff, we used to have an elephant that my mother in law brought back from india. But a buddy of mine commented "dude that is totally an idol" and referenced one of the ten commandments in Deuteronomy 5:8 " You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below." and then...Isaiah 44:9 "All who make idols are nothing, and the things they treasure are worthless. Those who would speak up for them are blind; they are ignorant, to their own shame". So needless to say the elephant is long gone.
I'll be honest, I never jumped on the Karma bandwagon of sorts. I think I felt it was a little too hippy movement for me. And also, thankfully as far as I can recall off the top of my head, I do not possess any art pieces of middle eastern origin...actually I own very little art. Thanks for making me sad about that one! Just kidding!
Nice post!
Hey Matt,
Good thoughts on "karma." I have always wanted to use words properly; as a Christian, I believe it is EXTREMELY important that we tame our tongues.
Amrita, I want to apologize on behalf of all American Christians for our laziness and ignorance with such important religious issues at stake. We American Christians have become too comfortable in our culture. We are fortunate to live in a country founded on Judeo-Christian principles that allows us to have so many freedoms. We have not lived in a society where other religions and anti-God ideologies have become the norm. But if we begin to assimilate the words of other religions into our "everyday language," what's to say that the ideological and philosophical origins of these words won't be assimilated into our culture also?
True, we as Christians are not under the law but under grace; so we aren't less "Christian" if we use ANY word in our conversation.
But as G.K. Chesterton wrote, "To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it." We may have the right to use what words we want and God will love us anyway, but a habit of being "loose" with our speech is a slippery slope. Jesus warned that we would have to give account for idle--or lazy--words that we use in Matthew 12:36. Our words should be carefully chosen because not only are we God's emissaries to this world but we also have to explain our word choice to a Holy God someday.
Jesus also said earlier in Matthew 12:34, "For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks." If we are lazy in our word choice, we are just showing the status of our hearts--ignorant, immature, irresponsible, or irreverant. Not much of an attraction to nonbelievers.
Yes, avoiding the pop culture vernacular will be the "road less traveled" but it's eternally worthwhile.
I wouldn't equate the Golden Rule to Karma, my dear old friend. The Golden Rule isn't what goes around comes around. I guess that it would be more like, "Do unto others AS IF there was Karma...even though it might not be returned..." or something like that.
I absolutely shudder when I see the "My Karma ran over your Dogma" stickers on the VW's in midtown. I can hear their nasally voices saying it to....
meow.
I totally agree. I have heard the world "karma" being thrown around like it's so trendy. Yet I always think to myself, "isn't that what Jesus says as the golden rule?" It really does seem like people are open to spirituality but are sick of hearing the TRUTH of Saviour Jesus Christ. The story about the man with both the Darwin sticker and Karma sticker made me laugh.
We have a few years' old calendar in a closet that a friend brought back from Japan, back when the calendar was still the current year. We kept it because we like it, but don't display it because, you know, 2003 was quite a while ago now.
I had a roommate called Karma. That's about as close as I've come.
I know this post is old, but I'm new to the CofNP, and I just wanted to comment because I LOL'd when I read "TJ MAXX: CLEARANCE" Because I work there!
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